Kim Strobel:
All right, everybody. Welcome to the she Finds Joy podcast. And so I’m breaking my own rule today. I have this rule since I restarted the podcast, that I needed to make the podcast content as easy to develop as possible because I do so much content creation in my business. And so my rule was, okay, this is going to be a one woman show going forward, 15, 20 minutes of Kim Strobel. Not going to really bring other people on at this time. But I ended up crossing paths with a lady named Trina Ennis. And get this, she is a life fun expert. What even is that? A life fun expert? So we did this, like, pre interview, and I picked up on her energy very quickly. She has this natural, which I’m not going to lie, some people might be like, but she’s just naturally happy. And she explained that she’s been wired like this her whole life, so she trumps the genetics, her part of. Part that we talk about, but she also has this fascinating backstory to working in the corporate world, in the tech world, understanding that women specifically were losing a lot of their fun in their life, not even feeling like they know how to have fun or if they do, not even taking the chance to have fun because it might feel silly. And so I’m really excited to interview her. So welcome to the podcast, Trina.
Trina Ennis:
Thank you. And let me start by saying how I love breaking rules. So I’m so glad you broke one.
Kim Strobel:
I am a rule breaker too, Trina. I am. Okay. But before we, like, get into the meat of this, I have to tell you, when I was doing the research around you and just reading more about your story, who you are the Finding Fun Experiment podcast and all the great topics that you talk about. It’s so interesting to me that you. A big part of your own fun factor has been travel.
Trina Ennis:
Yes.
Kim Strobel:
Does it say on your website you’ve been to 48 countries?
Trina Ennis:
Yeah, but I’m probably tracking close to 55 now from that.
Kim Strobel:
Okay, so Trina, my husband and I just had this. I didn’t plan to go there with you on this particular topic.
Trina Ennis:
Okay.
Kim Strobel:
But my husband and I just had this conversation this morning and we. Okay, so we take two vacations a year and we almost always do the exact same thing. We’re going to go down to our favorite Cancun luxurious, all inclusive resort. And we like that. We don’t have to think about anything. We don’t have to wait in line to eat. You know, the beach chairs are set up for us. And we were saying this morning how we have not been fulfilled by that lately for some reason. And we’re like, okay, are we like, we’re empty nesters, but we’re very attached to our dogs. And so like we feel so sad when we have to leave the dogs. What is getting in our way? And then like to talk about even European travel, it’s like in my soul it’s calling me, but I can’t make it happen. But I know we need to mix things up. So like, I just need to understand you. You grab a dirty backpack and you what? Help me. I, I just didn’t know this part of you. So help me understand.
Trina Ennis:
Okay, so this journey, so, so traveling has for me is part of living lively, part of my formula, part of my being. And I, I grew up in a small town and on an island and travel, international travel was not ever part of conversation. I think the school, you know, high school might have taken, you know, a trip once a year for the kids that could afford, afford it. But that it was so out of my, my element and my, my vision. And when I left the island and moved to the city to go to university, I started hearing like snippets of travel. And, and so then I started entering into that world of but you know, with a rolling suitcase and hotels and just exactly what you’re saying, like going perhaps back to the same resort or maybe trying it you new country, but back to like a safety of a resort. And when I turned 40, I took my first backpack trip with my son. We went to Japan. I had a vision where I really wanted to teach my, my children how to travel uniquely and differently. And you didn’t have to be rich to travel. I wanted to teach them that you could travel in very unique way. So perhaps with a home stay or, or exchange of services, or you could pet, sit or you could again travel with your backpack, stay, you know, in with families and, and travel in a very unique way. And so the, my first backpack was with my son and we did a hike trip across, in Japan across the Kamado koto Trail for 10 days. And we slept on the floor, we slept in people’s homes, we slept in. There’s a little rice pillow. And this was just the start of my journey of this dirty backpack, which I still have, by the way. That’s why it’s so dirty. But you can go to the dry cleaner and get it cleaned. I got it cleaned last year. And it is this off the beaten path, travel this unique way, this outside your comfort zone. It just, it is a game changer and it can sound very scary, but there’s some very easy ways to start. So let’s talk about Europe for a second. So my, my best friend who I grew up with, also grew up in the same island. With not a lot of international travel culture in our lives mentoring us, I, I finally got her to agree to. She’s had four kids, they’re all gone now. She’s been married for, you know, 30 plus years. And I finally got her to agree to go on a trip with me. And I said, I promise there won’t be any snakes or, you know, we won’t be traveling down the Amazon or some weird thing or living in a village. So I, we did a cycle trip in the Bordeaux region of France. Ten days cycling through with a map, just her and I and the wineries and the vineyards and the nature and the people and the villages. It was life changing. Stopping on the side of the road with our baguette and our cheese, refueling. It was our protein bars going through these clock towers. It just was castles, it was just what you’d see in a storybook. And then I said to her, I like to travel. When I travel, I like to travel somewhere I’ve never been. And I’ve been to France a few times. So I said, I’m going to pick a country that I’ve never been to. So I hit the map and there’s a country called Montenegro. Never been there before. I’m like, let’s just fly there and it looks safe, talk to people in that country. We rented a car and we were Thelma and Louise and we traveled through that country road tripping, hiking Meeting people, eating good food, swimming, laughing, dancing. It’s beautiful.
Kim Strobel:
I’m just gonna tell you I have the skill set to do that is, like, it feels like a 1 out of 10. I like, it feels like I don’t even know how you even know how to pick a hotel. I don’t know how you even know how to get transportation. So now my brain’s going to the least path of resistance. Like, do you. Do you coordinate travel trips for people?
Trina Ennis:
No, I can. And for you, as your friend.
Kim Strobel:
No, like my friend Susan Hyatt. She creates these, like, trips, and she goes on them with a group of women, and you pay for her to have, like, everything coordinated out.
Trina Ennis:
So that’s okay.
Kim Strobel:
That’s not even part of your business model.
Trina Ennis:
No, I just want to inspire women, people to travel this way because it. The world is so big, and when you start to get a taste of how small we are in it and how rich it can be for you as a human. It. I just feel everybody just don’t miss this opportunity of life. And it doesn’t have to cost a lot of money. It does not have to cost a lot of money.
Kim Strobel:
Do you have a playbook for how to do this? Have you created that yet? I mean, like, do you not. This is your next book. Okay. We all need to read it because. And my soul is feeling this tug. And. And yet, like, I don’t know how to get started to do it. And.
Trina Ennis:
But.
Kim Strobel:
But I just heard a podcast last week that said if you want to feel yourself break open in positive ways, travel somewhere new.
Trina Ennis:
Oh, yeah. And I’m talking like, new new. I’m not talking like, don’t go to Hawaii or Dominican Republic to do another resort without Husband’s idea of that.
Kim Strobel:
This morning was, well, we’ll go to Golf Shores instead. Okay, so yeah, yeah.
Trina Ennis:
No, and okay, so here’s a. Here’s a starting point. So what I do is I typically look for a local company in the country. Not a. Not a. And. And you can do search like on TripAdvisor or you can look at. To see if they’re credible. You can look at their, you know, social media lots of different ways. So start there. Start with finding that little nugget in that country, and they’re going to be your guide to. To figure your way through. So my. So my husband, I are. We’re going next month to Indonesia for a month. Never been there. 17,000 islands. No idea where to start. And.
Kim Strobel:
Islands.
Trina Ennis:
17,000 islands.
Kim Strobel:
Okay.
Trina Ennis:
Yeah, we just. And we just booked our Flights like last month, and nothing’s been booked yet on these islands. But still figuring our way through. But I could tell you part of the fun, and I know might seem overwhelming, overwhelming, but, you know, we’re spending, you know, our Friday nights over a nice glass of wine, looking at these islands. I’m doing some homework together and what, you know, what’s your vision? What’s my vision? So that. That’s also really great for your relationship. And I did that with my best friend. So we had a lot of fun just dreaming. And it was very overwhelming for her. So I just said, look, just book a train. Here’s one thing you can do next week. Here’s one more thing you can do. So it’s just a lot of fun. And you build like a Google Doc and you share, you know, ideas and.
Kim Strobel:
Okay, so in. Since we’re talking about fun and we’ve talked about. People on this podcast know, I’ve talked about Stuart Brown’s eight play personalities. So is one of your play personalities the director? Are you.
Trina Ennis:
No, you’re not.
Kim Strobel:
It sounds like you are. Because here’s what I’m thinking. I’ll just be honest with you. I’m thinking, like, I’m not a researcher. I don’t enjoy any of the research part. Like, you’re acting like this is this wonderful thing you do with your husband on Friday nights. And like, I think it is. And I think that sounds like pure hell to me. So I just need a Trina who starts to say, like, oh, I’m organizing this trip to Indonesia for women, and I’m taking 10 people, and this is what it’s going to cost you. And I’ve planned everything out.
Trina Ennis:
Well, if you find 10 women that want to do that, I’d be happy to do that. No problem. But there are. And there are lots of. Yeah, women. Like, there’s. There is actually. I’ll share a link that you could put in your show notes for women. Her name’s Anna and she’s got. I haven’t done one of her trips, but she. I’ve worked with her just from doing some workshops, and she’s. She does women trips and she does couple trips, too. So you might. I’m gonna wr that down. You know, husband might want to. Yes.
Kim Strobel:
Like, I want to feed myself some of this that you have in you. Like, I’m in such admiration that you are one of those people that fills your fun bucket by doing these types of things. Like, to me, that is like a superpower, a super skill set. And I can see what it does for your life, and I know that it’s one way to add more. More joy and adventure. And I think it’s the next step my husband and I need to take. And now if you see three months from now that we’re back at LeBlanc in Cancun,
Trina Ennis:
I’m gonna be calling you out. You are?
Kim Strobel:
Because we have been pushing ourselves to do it, but we are so held back by these dogs. This attachment to these dogs. We’ve gotta get over it. It’s a. It’s like a sickness, you know?
Trina Ennis:
Or is it an excuse perhaps?
Kim Strobel:
I don’t know. But I’m gonna ponder it on my walk in a little bit. Okay. But. Okay. I didn’t plan to go there, but, like, that’s okay. It’s just like, that is so interesting to me. So you are this person who came from the corporate world. I mean, I’ve read your bio. Basically, like a super high achieving woman who was very ambitious in her career, worked in corporate tech. But then you started to notice what exactly that led you to being someone who really wants to teach women in particular how to prioritize fun and laughter and play.
Trina Ennis:
So it started with my. I’m a big fan of fun lists and bucket lists. And a fun list is a tool that anybody can have. Just have a sticky note or a whiteboard or somewhere that’s in your space, whether it’s your office or your laundry room. And when you see something fun, just write it down. Oh, I’d like to try that. Write it down. Maybe I don’t want to try it, but I want to look into it. Just write it down. So when you have that Saturday free, you’ve got a list of your fun activities that you can pull off to do. There is a stat says that if you write it down, you’re 40% more likely to do it. And that’s true with your fun list. If I’m out him and Han about what fun I want to have on Saturday, and it’s right in front of me, awesome. But a bucket list bucket list are perhaps more grand gestures. Perhaps you want to set a deadline to. It might be a little more serious. Might be a little bigger for you. So on my bucket list was to write a book. By the time I turned 50, I’ve always loved writing. I’ve always want aspired to be Barbara Walters. In fact, I dressed up as her for Halloween this year. Nobody knew who she was. They thought I was Hillary Clinton, actually. So maybe I didn’t quite get her outfit right but here nor there. So I wrote this. So I started writing this book at 40. I gave myself good 10 years to write this book by the time I was 50. And it started off as a juicy fiction novel called Behind Closed Doors. And it was like what was happening here was not what was happening out here. And characters were inter, like weaving with each other and in, in relationships. And 41, 42, 43, I started scratching out like the characters I was getting kind of sick of. Bobby and Betty was boring. So I change her name, change what she looked like. 46, 47. I’m like, oh my gosh, I am not gonna get this book written by the time I’m 50. So my aha moment in that journey. Because of course, writing a book, you’re always going to learn something about yourself. And I learned that I took on an activity that didn’t fit my personality. So if you know me, I am a sprinter. I’m not, I’m not a long. I’m not a marathon runner. I get in my head, I can’t. I can’t go far. I can go short. I’m short and fast. Good. Quick, quick, quick. So I’m writing a book that had a long game. I needed a short game. So I scrapped the long game and I wrote a book called Mind Doodles. This is why I know short vignette style chapters of this is what I know in life. Had a yacht party for my 50th birthday. Rock band tour through the city. 150 My friends and family book launch says best book they ever read.
Kim Strobel:
Of course, a copy of it. Show us a picture of it.
Trina Ennis:
Oh, right behind. Can you see it?
Kim Strobel:
Oh, yep, we can see it at the top. Yeah. Okay, got it.
Trina Ennis:
Okay, here it is in person.
Kim Strobel:
There we go. Mind Doodles. This is what I know. Short little stories. Okay.
Trina Ennis:
Short little stories. And I thought for funsies, well, I would just put it on Amazon. Well, I wrote this book. I might as well get it out to the world, see if there’d be any interest. And so what happened was women were contacting me, people I didn’t know, saying, how do you live this way? I’m like, how do I live what? What way? What are you talking about? Well, how do you live with such vibrancy and freedom and wildness and doing what you want. And I might. Well, I. I’m not living. I’m not living an extraordinary life. I’m just like you. I’m just the woman next door. You know, I got a cat and some Kids and, you know, I’m in the suburb, like, I’m not anything extra special. But a lot of people thought I. I was. And then I thought, could I teach women how to live this way? Could I teach businesses how to help their teams perform this way, with fun and laughter and play and. And live a better life? So that’s where it started. Wasn’t a plan. It was the world that came. That came after me.
Kim Strobel:
And what is so interesting is you would be what is called a positive outlier. So, so many people, so many studies that we do, we study the average, right? So when we ask, like, you know
Trina Ennis:
what, how.
Kim Strobel:
How can you know what’s the average score for third graders in reading? Or what’s the average number of people who work out in the US or whatever, it’s always the average that we study. But nobody wants to be average. Who wants to be average? And so, like with positive psychology, that’s what they started to do, is they started to see, well, here’s the average people who have average energy levels, average vibrancy, average creativity. But then there’s these positive outliers that are outperforming everyone in energy, creativity, intelligence, vibrancy. And what is it that they’re doing different than the rest of us? And so what’s so interesting to me is you thought you were average. You thought you were the norm, because that’s just how you’ve always functioned. And what you began to see is that is not how most women in particular are not having fun in their lives. Tell me, once you discovered that, have you figured out why women aren’t having fun?
Trina Ennis:
Well, yes. Guilt, judgment, Fear.
Kim Strobel:
Okay, I want to stop.
Trina Ennis:
Okay. And I don’t know how to. I don’t know how to have fun anymore. Oh, I. I’ve lost the art of having fun. I don’t even know what fun is. Am I fun? Can I even be fun?
Kim Strobel:
Yes. So you said fear, judgment, guilt, guilt, and then the loss of being able to know how to have fun. So give me an example of how judgment gets in the way of someone having fun.
Trina Ennis:
Okay, so recently, so what? So once a year with my, my girlfriends, we get together for Christmas as a. And give a gift of time, because again, we know nobody needs more presents or things or blah, blah, blah. But what learned was it’s hard to give a gift of time around the busiest holiday season for everybody. So we have our gift of time before Christmas, but before, like, December starts. So we do this in November. And usually I plan even though I’m deeming myself, not a director, but I usually plan it with another friend or two in that. In that crowd. And we’ve done things like weekends away or we’ve done, you know, dance nights or, I mean, all sorts of different things. So this year it was on my fun list to have a Mrs. Roper party. And so for the listeners that might not know who Mrs. Roper is, she came from a 1970s comedy, and she was the neighbor, Mr. And Mrs. Roper. And there was three roommates, a male and two females. And back in those days, it was like taboo to have a male living with two girls, so the male had to pretend he was gay and he wasn’t. And so Mr. And Mrs. Roper were always trying to bust these guys. And it was a super fun character. She wore. She was curly haired redhead. She wore moo moos all the time, and she was super hilarious. So, Kim, do you know the show?
Kim Strobel:
I do 100.
Trina Ennis:
Okay.
Kim Strobel:
Watching it. Yep.
Trina Ennis:
Okay. And there was this movement over the last. I think it started in 2020, maybe just before or after Covid, about having, like, Mrs. Roper parties where all everybody dresses up as Mrs. Roper. There’s Mrs. Roper pub crawls, there’s Mrs. Roper dances. And I thought, oh, my gosh, that’d be so much fun. So we organized. I hosted a Mrs. Roper party. And again, the rule, you had to dress up as Mrs. Roper. So there was a lot of fear of judgment. What am I going to look like? In fact, one woman did show up not wearing her Mrs. Roper outfit, and I made her go. I. Oh. Funny enough, I had an extra Mrs. Roper outfit and wig. Get in there and change into it. And just that. Yeah. The fear of looking silly, being silly, it was, it was, it was true. And this is for a group of women where we’ve known each other for years and there’s no judgment amongst us. Like, everybody’s embracing, but it was very much outside of a lot of women’s comfort zone.
Kim Strobel:
I can resonate with that. So this is making a lot of sense. Now. My husband. Well, I’m not going to lie.
Trina Ennis:
When.
Kim Strobel:
When there’s a party where you’re supposed to dress as a. I get wigged out. Like, don’t ask me to show up as a Halloween party and make me dress up as something. Or like, my friend wanted to have a mystery dinner and my husband and I were like, oh, God, no, we don’t. Like, where are we gonna find outfits? It feels like, way too stressful. And I think that we’re limiting ourselves. We’re limiting ourselves because there’s, like, some kind of fear there around that just feels like, are they gonna judge us or something? It feels weird to dress up like somebody else. You’re right. Well, I’m not gonna lie. A part of it is, too. Like, I just don’t need any more cognitive demand on me, and I feel like I’d be the one in charge of, like, finding the outfits. But I think we’re missing a little bit on the fun factor. Like a Mr. Rope. That sounds so fun. Of Mr. Mrs. Roper party. That sounds so fun. Like, I would want to push myself in. I didn’t even know these were a thing.
Trina Ennis:
So I know you’ll have to look it up, and I can tell you it was one of the. This. This party. And this gift of time will go down in history.
Kim Strobel:
Yes. You’re gonna have to text me some pictures from it.
Trina Ennis:
I will. I’ll send you a video link because it’s.
Kim Strobel:
Yeah, yeah.
Trina Ennis:
What’s fun. And the thing about this Mrs. Roper, we were all dressed alike. It’s not like we had to come up with our unique costume. Yeah, because you’re wearing the moomoo. And again, get on Amazon. You go. I mean, my. A lot of my friends went to the thrift store, got one for a dollar, and they even, like, went into their moomoo, took out the Kleenex and the tic Tacs. No word of a lie.
Kim Strobel:
Gosh.
Trina Ennis:
Thrift store didn’t, like, obviously clean the.
Kim Strobel:
Oh, my gosh.
Trina Ennis:
The previous Mrs. Row. Anyway, super fun. And I will. I will send you.
Kim Strobel:
Yes.
Trina Ennis:
Okay. Yeah, yeah.
Kim Strobel:
And then I want to talk about one other, which is. You said guilt. Tell me how guilt gets in the way of women having fun.
Trina Ennis:
Oh, yes. So I. I’m gonna pick on my best friend again. Poor. Her name’s Leanne. She won’t mind. She. So mother of four kids. Four girls. Always put herself last. All, like, all, like, through her raising of her kids. And I fought, fought, fought for her for that space. I could get it.
Kim Strobel:
You’re talking about the same woman that hooked us up.
Trina Ennis:
No, I’m talking about the women who I finally talked into going to Europe for the first time.
Kim Strobel:
Okay. Because there’s a Liana and there’s a Leanne. Okay, got it. Oh, no.
Trina Ennis:
Leanne. That’s it. Just Leanne.
Kim Strobel:
Okay. Yeah.
Trina Ennis:
Anna is the travel trip lady that I will connect you with. Anna is her name. So Leanne, my best friend growing up, and we’ve known Each other. Yeah. Since we’re nine years old. And so she. Yeah. Four mother, four girls and always would not prioritize. Guilt, guilt, guilt. Hey, let’s go away for the week. No, I’ve gotta. I’ve gotta go watch a soccer practice. Oh, let’s go for a weekend. Oh, no, I’ve got to be there for, for dance practice. For practice. Like, not even like. Yeah. So she, the guilt, theormous of guilt she carried about not being there, being that mom in the stands or being that mom present or being that mom there just absorbed her. So it. So I made her promise to me as soon as those girls were gone, she would come back to me. And it has been. It has been. It’s still there. The guilt is still there for her. Much, much better. Like my. Again, I got her on her first international trip, you know, cycling through the vineyards of Bordeaux, France. But it’s. It’s hard. So even to this day, you know, she. She definitely struggles on the guilt of what are people going to think? It’s. They’re gonna think I’m selfish. Like, that selfish feeling is so strong for her. So strong.
Kim Strobel:
It reminds me of a young woman who stopped me two years ago on Main street in downtown Till City. And she said, kim, I’ve decided I want to train for a half marathon. And I don’t think that my, My friends are meaning to, but like, they’re saying things to like, like, how do you have time for that with. While you’re raising your kids? Like, don’t you work and like you raising kids? How are you taking an hour, hour and a half to go run a long run? And she’s like, they’re not really meaning to, but they, they kind of were. Mom shaming me.
Trina Ennis:
Right, right.
Kim Strobel:
You know, and.
Trina Ennis:
Right.
Kim Strobel:
And she’s like, it feels awful. It feels like I’m being really selfish. And so I do think those download loaded scripts live and breathe and I. They’re really hard to break for women. But you know, I always go back to this idea of like, especially if you’re a mom of girls, you know, what are you modeling to your daughters? And I mean, I had a son and I. And it was important for me to model this for him is like, I am more than a mother and I’m more than a wife and I’m more than a motivational speaker. Like, there’s a woman who lives inside here who deserves to claim some space for herself. And I want you, my son, to know that your mom loved herself enough during the raising of you where she still honored that part of her. So someday when you become a dad and a. And a husband, which husbands and men don’t struggle with this as much as women, but you know that your daughters say, you know what? I was modeled by a mom who showed me that I count, too, in the equation of life. And because I was raised with a mom who did that, I. I know I’m allowed to claim that space, too. And so a lot of times that’s the conversation that I’ll have that actually gets. Because now we’re. We’re talking about it affecting their children. So now they don’t care if it affects them, but if it affects their children, now they’re willing to maybe make an adjustment. So I find that so interesting that fear and judgment and guilt are the things that keep women from having fun. And then, like, it’s such a lost gem for so many years from their life that when you say what would bring you fun, they. They don’t even know what would bring them fun. They can’t come up with an answer. Tell me why. First of all, I love this idea that you want. I would encourage my listeners right now. First of all, if you know a woman who this episode is resonating with you and you’re like, I got three girlfriends that need this episode, do them a favor and send them this link where Trina is explaining these areas, these blockages that get in our way, but also, you know, understanding that we are allowed to prioritize our fun. But, you know, how do we stop these four things from getting in the way? And that’s what Trina’s been talking to you about. And so then my next question is, how do we get it back?
Trina Ennis:
Well, let me just give everybody hope who’s perhaps lost it. It’s retrainable. And they’re Dr. Mike Rucker. He’s a psychiatrist, and he talks a lot about how he wrote a book called the. The Fun Habit, and he talks a lot about how we’ve lost the art of the fun habit in our life, which makes sense, right? You’re, you know, again, we’re. We’re hit that teenage year, and then, oh, you got to get a job, right? And then you got to study hard to get, you know, to your. To your education, and then you got to work hard, and then you’ve got to potentially raise a family. So in all that growing up, we’re starting to unravel from the fun, the play and getting serious and spending more time in that serious versus the. The play. And the fun. And then, you know, as now we’re 30, 40 years old and we’ve lost, we’ve lost our, our fun habit. But it is retrainable and it can be built again. And it can be built in as a habit, can be built in as a ritual in your life. Like when we talked about traveling. Traveling is like a, it’s a ritual to me. It’s a fun ritual in my life. It’s meeting the world, it’s connecting with it. If I, I, I, when I travel, I learn from cultures and communities and generations. How do they live vibrantly? How do they live so lively? I bring that back. I bring that back to my life and to all those around me and through my own podcast and, and teach that back in the world. It’s, it’s part of my habit and part of my, my fun ritual. And so how do we get that back? So I’ve got three simple. I mean, I’ve got lots of ways, but I’m going to share three. Three ways. Three simple ways. And the first thing that you can start doing is really being mindful of how many times in a week we could track it in a week that you say, why not? More than why Women. We are so great at why, why, why, why? Why me? Why? Why? What could go wrong? Why? Why should I do this? Why? Why? Why? By that time, that opportunity is long gone and you have missed the Mrs. Roper party. But if you spend the space, more space in why not? You are going to open yourself up to a lot of opportunities and a lot of fun and a lot of things to try. Why not? And you don’t have to do it again. Why not? Give it a go. Give it a try. What’s the, what’s the loss? And just why not right away? Why not? And also do. The other great tool is two seconds. Don’t give yourself more than two seconds to love that.
Kim Strobel:
Yes.
Trina Ennis:
Yeah. Before your brain starts to talk. Talk you out of it.
Kim Strobel:
Yeah.
Trina Ennis:
A second tool. Well, I should just give you two. So third tool is also, I do a, what I call a, a fire in your belly pulse check every night before I go to bed. And, and so I just do a, just I run through the day. Did that amp me up? Did that light me up? Great. I want to do more of that. Did that kind of like bring me down? I mean, yeah, we have to do our taxes and do things that are bummers, but let’s just get that out of the way. But for the rest of it, just do your like, did that, did that make a little fire in my belly? Did that light me up? That made me feel good and inventory it. If it did, do more of it. If it didn’t, it hits the road. Be tough, be tough.
Kim Strobel:
I love that. And you’re right. It’s acting quickly. It’s telling ourselves, why not try that? And then we’re going back to the feeling. I always say, how do you want to fill in your life? Right? And so what did light a fire in my belly? Okay. There are so many gems and I promise my listeners, I’m gonna. I gotta keep this nice and short. Here’s where I want you to tell people where they can find you. Where can they find more of you?
Trina Ennis:
Okay. Just hit my website, www.mind doodles.
Kim Strobel:
And she has this amazing podcast called the Finding Fun Experiment. Trina, you, you’ve got me so curious to first question my why nots. Like I are my whys. Question them. You know, like, that’s my husband and I, when we have our Italian dinner tonight, I am going to talk to him about my new revelations about what’s getting us stuck. Especially when it comes to this travel, this fun, this adventure that I feel like will light me up. And so I love that you’re just encouraging us to see the things that get in our way. Fear, judgment, guilt, not knowing what to do and also saying that here’s how to self check ourselves when we are trying to make these moves in our life. So, okay, we could talk about this forever. Thank you so much for joining me. I know everybody who’s got. If you’re on socials, folks, and you’ve heard this podcast, share it, tag me in it. I want to know, what gems did you take away from Ms. Trina Ennis today? Thank you all so much.
Trina Ennis:
Thank you.
